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HMM ( Supervise & Unsupervised) in RapidMiner - Hidden Markov Model

varunm1varunm1 Moderator, Member Posts: 1,185   Unicorn
edited December 2018 in Product Ideas

Hello,

 

Hidden Markov Models are vastly used in AI, datascience and many other domains. I observed that RapidMiner doesn't have any extensions for Hidden Markove Models (Supervised & Unsupervised). It will be useful if there is an extension for classification using Hidden Markov Models.

 @sgenzer@hermawan_eriadi@jpuente@luc_bartkowski

Thanks

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  • varunm1varunm1 Moderator, Member Posts: 1,185   Unicorn
    Any ideas on creating HMM operators in RM in the near future?
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    Varun
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  • sgenzersgenzer 12Administrator, Moderator, Employee, RapidMiner Certified Analyst, Community Manager, Member, University Professor, PM Moderator Posts: 2,921  Community Manager
    interesting - 10 votes for this :smiley: Any thoughts @alebo?
  • WTWT Member Posts: 5 Contributor II
    NO easy way to do this today in RM except via R which is not ideal so would strongly support this being native in RM if possible thank you.
  • varunm1varunm1 Moderator, Member Posts: 1,185   Unicorn
    @sgenzer do you have any minimum votes that are needed to get a response on product ideas? I am sure you also look for business use cases, and the idea fit in RM, but it will also be useful if there are any periodic updates on ideas posted on the community (for example, every 6 months). Just a thought, so that we can think more about new ideas based on feasibility in the current RM structure.
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  • sgenzersgenzer 12Administrator, Moderator, Employee, RapidMiner Certified Analyst, Community Manager, Member, University Professor, PM Moderator Posts: 2,921  Community Manager
    edited October 2019
    hi @varunm1 we try to review all active Product Ideas and Product Feedback discussions at least 4x/year. Most of the time it's more often than that. There is no minimum threshold votes to guarantee that a feature will make it into the product, but I can assure you that when I hold these meetings with the product managers, we take these in order of votes.

    As far as this specific idea, I just had the meeting with our Studio product manager a few weeks ago and we did discuss this. I will get some more clarity from product but my notes say that this particular feature would take some effort to implement and we are not seeing a whole lot of demand from it on the commercial side. However product agreed that it was worth keeping here and hence not declining outright.
  • varunm1varunm1 Moderator, Member Posts: 1,185   Unicorn
    Thanks, Scott for informing me about the process.
    Regards,
    Varun
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  • sgenzersgenzer 12Administrator, Moderator, Employee, RapidMiner Certified Analyst, Community Manager, Member, University Professor, PM Moderator Posts: 2,921  Community Manager
    just another 10 cents here...this is the kind of thing that would be ideally implemented by the open source community as an extension (or part of one). We are working hard to make it easier for users to build their own extensions, but meanwhile everything that you would need to do this is here: https://docs.rapidminer.com/latest/developers/extensions/
  • varunm1varunm1 Moderator, Member Posts: 1,185   Unicorn
    Thanks @sgenzer, thats all needed to know. Will take a look at the link you shared.
    Regards,
    Varun
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  • mschmitzmschmitz Administrator, Moderator, Employee, RapidMiner Certified Analyst, RapidMiner Certified Expert, University Professor Posts: 2,408  RM Data Scientist
    To add, First-Level HMMs are implemented in SMILE ( https://haifengl.github.io/smile/api/java/smile/sequence/HMM.html ), which is 'reasonably straight-forward' to add to the SMILE extension. Would this be what you search for, @varunm1 ?

    BR,
    Martin

    - Head of Data Science Services at RapidMiner -
    Dortmund, Germany
  • varunm1varunm1 Moderator, Member Posts: 1,185   Unicorn
    Hello @mschmitz

    This does it. Once you were able to add it, I will try it in RM.

    Thanks
    Varun
    Regards,
    Varun
    https://www.varunmandalapu.com/

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