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03-19-2012
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03-19-2012
02:13 PM
Hi friends,

I'm using rapidminer to make text classification with svm(libsvm), k-nn and naive bayes algorithms. So, when i get the results of my test data, i'm not sure about how each one calculates the confidence values of each instance on each class. Can anyone help me? I need this information to my article.

Thanks in advance.

I'm using rapidminer to make text classification with svm(libsvm), k-nn and naive bayes algorithms. So, when i get the results of my test data, i'm not sure about how each one calculates the confidence values of each instance on each class. Can anyone help me? I need this information to my article.

Thanks in advance.

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03-19-2012
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Hi,

this is different for each of those algorithms:

naive bayes: the confidence is directly the calculated probability delivered by the algorithm (actually, this is one of the rare cases where the confidence IS a real probability)

k-nn: the confidence is the number of the k neighbors with the predicted class divided by k (the single values are weighted by distace in case of weighted predictions)

svm (I am not so sure about the LibSVM which brings another calculation in the multiclass case): for binomial classes, a good estimation of the probability for the positive class which is also used by RapidMiner is 1 / (1 + exp(-function_value))) where function_value is the SVM prediction

Hope that helps,

Ingo

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this is different for each of those algorithms:

naive bayes: the confidence is directly the calculated probability delivered by the algorithm (actually, this is one of the rare cases where the confidence IS a real probability)

k-nn: the confidence is the number of the k neighbors with the predicted class divided by k (the single values are weighted by distace in case of weighted predictions)

svm (I am not so sure about the LibSVM which brings another calculation in the multiclass case): for binomial classes, a good estimation of the probability for the positive class which is also used by RapidMiner is 1 / (1 + exp(-function_value))) where function_value is the SVM prediction

Hope that helps,

Ingo

How to load processes in XML from the forum into RapidMiner: Read this!

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Hi,

well, pretty much the same as for all other kinds of classification tasks. The confidence describes how certain a prediction is. Although similar to a probability of a prediction of a specific class, it is most often not the same (with exception of some learners like Naive Bayes).

The same applies for text classification, the confidence of a class value states how certain the model is that a document belongs to this class.

Cheers,

Ingo

How to load processes in XML from the forum into RapidMiner: Read this!

what´s the concept of confidence on text classification?

well, pretty much the same as for all other kinds of classification tasks. The confidence describes how certain a prediction is. Although similar to a probability of a prediction of a specific class, it is most often not the same (with exception of some learners like Naive Bayes).

The same applies for text classification, the confidence of a class value states how certain the model is that a document belongs to this class.

Cheers,

Ingo

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04-03-2012
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Hi, Thank you very mucho for your help!

I need to clarify some aspects of my project:

I'm using three different methods to classify approximately 3000 documents in 11 categories. The methods are: k-NN, Naive Bayes and SVM (libsvm linear Kernel C-SVC). After submitting the documents for each of the testing methods generates an output value with a confidence (0-1) of the document for each category and the category chosen is having the biggest confidence.

What i´m doing is to sum the confidences of the document on each category on each 3 models and choose the label with the highest value, i guess this is called bagging, right?. Well, the fact is: my accuracy was improved about 2%. I´m yet not sure about how this confidence values are generated and normalized by Rapidminer on each model to support my conclusions. Do I have to normalize the values of each method to work together or i can consider them normalized and my result makes sense?

Many thanks in advance!

I need to clarify some aspects of my project:

I'm using three different methods to classify approximately 3000 documents in 11 categories. The methods are: k-NN, Naive Bayes and SVM (libsvm linear Kernel C-SVC). After submitting the documents for each of the testing methods generates an output value with a confidence (0-1) of the document for each category and the category chosen is having the biggest confidence.

What i´m doing is to sum the confidences of the document on each category on each 3 models and choose the label with the highest value, i guess this is called bagging, right?. Well, the fact is: my accuracy was improved about 2%. I´m yet not sure about how this confidence values are generated and normalized by Rapidminer on each model to support my conclusions. Do I have to normalize the values of each method to work together or i can consider them normalized and my result makes sense?

Many thanks in advance!

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11-15-2016
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Dear Jing,

first of all: welcome to the community. There is no documentation on how our 250+ learners are calculating confidence. Most of the things are either readable in text books or in our code. Is there any operator in specific where we can help you?

~Martin

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08-09-2017
08:32 AM
Here just look at the sampel

Copy from Help:

Note that in the testing set, the attributes of the first example are

Outlook = sunnyandWind = false. Naive Bayes does calculation for all possible label values and selects thelabelvalue that has maximum calculated probability.

Calculation for

label = yes

Find product of following:

Thus the answer = 9/14*0.223*0.659 = 0.094

Posterior probability of label = yes(i.e. 9/14) value from distribution table when Outlook = sunnyandlabel = yes(i.e. 0.223) value from distribution table when Wind = falseandlabel = yes(i.e. 0.659)

Calculation for

label = no

Find product of following:

Thus the answer = 5/14*0.581*0.397= 0.082

posterior probability of label = no(i.e. 5/14) value from distribution table when Outlook = sunnyandlabel = no(i.e. 0.581) value from distribution table when Wind = falseandlabel = no(i.e. 0.397)

As the value for

label = yesis the maximum of all possible label values, label is predicted to beyes.

*And this ist how the confidence is calculated:*

*conf(yes) = 0.094/(0.094+0.082) = 0.534*

*conf(no) = 0.082/(0.094+0.082) = 0,465*

* *

*Without round-off error you get:*