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Question on Applying Model/normalizing

stereotaxonstereotaxon Member Posts: 10 Contributor II
edited November 2018 in Help
Hi,

I fit Weka's MLP model and choose the option to normalize my data, saved my model, and now I want to apply that model to a new dataset.

I'm wondering how RM/Weka handle the normalization.  That is, I want my dataset to be scaled the same way as my old data set, for example, say the normalization did something like this

variable1 in old dataset:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 --> .0, .2, .4, .6, .8, 1

variable1 in new dataset::
1,2,3        --> ????

would it normalize var1 in the new dataset to have values of .0, .2, .4 (desired) or 0, .5, 1 (not good)?

Thanks!
Mike

Answers

  • TobiasMalbrechtTobiasMalbrecht Moderator, Employee, Member Posts: 291  RM Product Management
    Hi,

    I must admit I do not exactly know how stored Weka models behave, but I assume (hope ;)) it stores the normalization parameters as well and hence normalizes the data according to the same parameters.

    May I ask why you do not use the corresponding "native" RapidMiner operators, i.e. the [tt]Normalization[/tt] operator in combination with the [tt]NeuralNet[/tt]?

    Cheers,
    Tobias
  • stereotaxonstereotaxon Member Posts: 10 Contributor II
    I use the Weka MLP because it seems to be faster and I'm working with big data.  For the normalization question, I think I'll just run a small test  where I fit normalized data that includes the holdout set, with missing values for the label, and then score the holdout set using the model.  I'm (already) pretty sure the predictions will be the same.

    thanks,
    Mike
  • IngoRMIngoRM Administrator, Moderator, Employee, RapidMiner Certified Analyst, RapidMiner Certified Expert, Community Manager, RMResearcher, Member, University Professor Posts: 1,751  RM Founder
    Hi,

    you could also create the normalization model with the "Normalization" operator with the parameter "create_preprocessing_model" turned on. Then use the Weka learner and later you can apply both models on your application data.

    Cheers,
    Ingo
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