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Launching on Mac

jonmrichjonmrich Member Posts: 2 Contributor I
edited September 2019 in Help
I'm stuck on step zero.

I've got studio downloaded. It tells me that I need to have Java Runtime Environment installed. I install that and confirm it's working using Java's site.

I go back to start rapidminer and continue to get the same message that I need Java Runtime Environment installed.

I'm on a Mac running Yosemite and I have Java Version 8 Update 31 installed.

What's the problem here? I've tried restarting multiple times and reinstalling Java, but the same thing keeps happening.
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    Marco_BoeckMarco_Boeck Administrator, Moderator, Employee, Member, University Professor Posts: 1,996 RM Engineering
    Hi,

    have a look here: http://rapid-i.com/rapidforum/index.php/topic,7627.0.html

    Apart from that, we are working on an actual OS X app which you can install like any other app and is self contained, i.e. ships with Java. That does not help you much right now, but we are aware of the Mac issues and are working to resolve them.

    Regards,
    Marco
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    Marco_BoeckMarco_Boeck Administrator, Moderator, Employee, Member, University Professor Posts: 1,996 RM Engineering
    Hi,

    with the release of RapidMiner Studio 6.4, we now offer a fully fledged OSX application. This should make the installation trivial and behave like any other OSX application. :)

    Regards,
    Marco
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    Hi all,
    Just updated on Mac to 6.4. No problem except for the fact that no wiring possible anymore manually.
    How to solve this problem?
    Sven
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    Marco_BoeckMarco_Boeck Administrator, Moderator, Employee, Member, University Professor Posts: 1,996 RM Engineering
    Hi,

    can you please give me some more information?
    1) Did you download and use the new OSX app? The previous version was simply a platform independent build which should still work but the native OSX app is custom tailored to OSX.
    2) What exact version of OSX are you using?
    3) Can you please post the contents of the ~/.RapidMiner/rapidminer-studio.log file after starting and trying to connect operators?
    4) Does the following not work? Add a "Retrieve" operator to a new process, left-click on its port on the right side, then move the mouse to a process output port on the top right side and left click on the highlighted output port? Can you describe the problem in detail, preferably with an easy step-by-step list?
    5) Can you provide a screenshot of the Open Files and Ports of RapidMiner Studio while it is running via the Activity Monitor?

    Thank you very much!

    Regards,
    Marco
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    RM downloaded as app, Mac OS 10.10.3
    May 5, 2015 3:18:41 PM CONFIG: Loading perspectives.
    May 5, 2015 3:18:42 PM SEVERE: Could not initialize R via JRI. Reason: Unable to initialize R
    May 5, 2015 3:18:42 PM SEVERE: Could not acquire connection to R: Could not initiate session with native R. Try using server. Reason: Could not initialize R via JRI. Reason: Unable to initialize R
    May 5, 2015 3:18:42 PM SEVERE: Could not acquire connection to R. Could not load Console.
    May 5, 2015 3:18:42 PM INFO: Initializing IDA GUI
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    May 5, 2015 3:18:42 PM WARNING: Version file /Users/svenvanpoucke/.RapidMiner/ida/version.txt does not exist.
    May 5, 2015 3:18:42 PM INFO: Current IDA version unknown. Ignoring update check.
    May 5, 2015 3:18:42 PM CONFIG: Reading secrets file.
    May 5, 2015 3:18:43 PM CONFIG: Ignoring update check. Last update check was on 5/3/15 5:00 PM.
    May 5, 2015 3:19:43 PM INFO: Operator 'Validation (3)' was created with version '5.1.002'. The operator's behaviour has changed as of version '6.4.000' and can be adapted to the latest version in the parameter panel.
    May 5, 2015 3:19:43 PM INFO: Operator 'NB' was created with version '5.1.002'. The operator's behaviour has changed as of version '6.4.000' and can be adapted to the latest version in the parameter panel.
    May 5, 2015 3:19:43 PM INFO: Operator 'Validation (2)' was created with version '5.1.002'. The operator's behaviour has changed as of version '6.4.000' and can be adapted to the latest version in the parameter panel.
    May 5, 2015 3:19:43 PM INFO: Operator 'Validation' was created with version '5.1.002'. The operator's behaviour has changed as of version '6.4.000' and can be adapted to the latest version in the parameter panel.
    May 5, 2015 3:20:10 PM INFO: Operator 'Validation (3)' was created with version '5.1.002'. The operator's behaviour has changed as of version '6.4.000' and can be adapted to the latest version in the parameter panel.
    May 5, 2015 3:20:10 PM INFO: Operator 'NB' was created with version '5.1.002'. The operator's behaviour has changed as of version '6.4.000' and can be adapted to the latest version in the parameter panel.
    May 5, 2015 3:20:10 PM INFO: Operator 'Validation (2)' was created with version '5.1.002'. The operator's behaviour has changed as of version '6.4.000' and can be adapted to the latest version in the parameter panel.
    May 5, 2015 3:20:10 PM INFO: Operator 'Validation' was created with version '5.1.002'. The operator's behaviour has changed as of version '6.4.000' and can be adapted to the latest version in the parameter panel.

    The wiring "line" I normally got as I put the pointer on OUT port while left mouse click does not generate a line
    cheers
    Sven
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    Marco_BoeckMarco_Boeck Administrator, Moderator, Employee, Member, University Professor Posts: 1,996 RM Engineering
    Hi,

    can you still connect, i.e. is the line simply not painted while you create a connection, or does it simply no longer work to connect?
    Also we would really appreciate a screenshot of the "Open Files and Ports" of RapidMiner Studio while it is running via the Activity Monitor as we currently cannot reproduce the issue here.

    As a side note, the platform independent release (labelled Linux) can be used in the meantime.

    Regards,
    Marco
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    Can not connect at all
    Activity Monitor screenshot to many characters, can I mail it?
    sven
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    mail is sent to you

    Edit: Removed the email
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    Marco_BoeckMarco_Boeck Administrator, Moderator, Employee, Member, University Professor Posts: 1,996 RM Engineering
    Hi,

    could it be that you have some kind of unusual mouse setup which causes this to fail? Can you try the other mouse button(s)?
    On Windows (and Mac) you can connect via "Left-click and release" on an operator port. Then you can move the mouse around to your target port, then left-click and release over the target port. Connection done. This does not work when pressing the right mouse button.

    Regards,
    Marco
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    Dear Marco,
    This procedure is what I always did as you described connecting the ports and my computer or settings were not changed.
    Sven
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    Since upgrade to 6.4 (App) wiring (except autowiring) is impossible. The out port is activated in the way that it increases its area, then a ultrashort beginning of wiring seems to start but no real wire can be generated. Not from a to b, not from b to a. Restarted my laptop, no success, reinstalled RM 6.4 app without success. No annotations used in the process area. Strange is that when I select an attribute which I wish to delete(because I could not wire it), the delete or rename action was not possible from the menu. I tried all possible mouse click changes and combinations without success.
    Cheers
    Sven
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    MartinLiebigMartinLiebig Administrator, Moderator, Employee, RapidMiner Certified Analyst, RapidMiner Certified Expert, University Professor Posts: 3,525 RM Data Scientist
    Hi Sven

    just a quick idea: Are you using Java 7 or 8?

    Cheers,
    Martin
    - Sr. Director Data Solutions, Altair RapidMiner -
    Dortmund, Germany
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    Dear Martin
    Java 8 update 45
    Cheers
    Sven
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    Marco_BoeckMarco_Boeck Administrator, Moderator, Employee, Member, University Professor Posts: 1,996 RM Engineering
    Hi,

    Java is shipped with the OS X app now (and according to the email you sent me it is used) so that is no longer a concern :)

    What we think is happening is that something is interfering with the Studio GUI. To be precise, it sounds like a focus loss problem.
    The first thing I'd check is whether some extension is messing with it.
    Can you try and temporarily disable all extensions you have downloaded? To do so, close Studio, navigate to your .RapidMiner folder and rename the folder "managed" to "managed_backup". Then start Studio again. See if that solves the problem. Unless you have installed extensions manually to Studio/lib/plugins, that should cover extension influence problems. You can rename the folder back later to restore your extensions.

    If that does not help, it is probably some tool you are using besides Studio. Maybe even something directly hooking into the OS User Interface..

    Regards,
    Marco
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    So I changed the managed file name to ..._backup; same problem, then I manually switched off all extensions, problem continues:(
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    my log gives
    May 6, 2015 10:35:57 AM CONFIG: Loading perspectives.
    May 6, 2015 10:35:58 AM CONFIG: Reading secrets file.
    May 6, 2015 10:35:58 AM CONFIG: Ignoring update check. Last update check was on 5/5/15 7:54 PM.
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    Hi,
    Any way to take over my laptop?
    Cheers
    Sven
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    Marco_BoeckMarco_Boeck Administrator, Moderator, Employee, Member, University Professor Posts: 1,996 RM Engineering
    Hi,

    if you'd like to help us track this down fast, we can give you a custom Mac version to try out which includes a potential fix and some additional logging in case it does not work.

    Regards,
    Marco
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    I would appreciate this very much
    Sven
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    Marco_BoeckMarco_Boeck Administrator, Moderator, Employee, Member, University Professor Posts: 1,996 RM Engineering
    Hi,

    I have sent you a PM via the forum which contains a link to an experimental fix version.

    Regards,
    Marco
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    Sent a PM with my log message, no fix yet
    Cheers
    Sven
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    Marco_BoeckMarco_Boeck Administrator, Moderator, Employee, Member, University Professor Posts: 1,996 RM Engineering
    Hi,

    thank you for your help! I think we have nailed the problem down. The reason you have this behavior is that you have the Process view and the XML view open at the same time. This actually causes multiple problems, the one you are running into is the most prominent one right now.
    To prevent all these issues, I highly recommend never having both views open at the same time. You can move the XML view into the same docking area as the Process view, so that you can switch between them easily but they are never visible at the same time. Like so:

    image

    Once you do that, the release version will work as expected.

    Regards,
    Marco
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    DocMusherDocMusher Member Posts: 333 Unicorn
    Dear Marco,
    Indeed, problem solved. Thank you very much. One thing if RM needs to be restarted because you have selected to use an extension, there is a typographic error using RADIDMINER, should be Rapidminer.
    Anyway, stupid I did not know the XML and process thing.
    Cheers
    Sven
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    Marco_BoeckMarco_Boeck Administrator, Moderator, Employee, Member, University Professor Posts: 1,996 RM Engineering
    Hi,

    you couldn't possibly know. Glad to hear that it works now :)

    Regards,
    Marco
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